Comments on: If at first you don’t succeed…. http://www.here.org.uk/2006/11/if-at-first-you-dont-succeed.html Welcome to Kieron's blog - the life and times of an Internet Marketeer Sat, 21 Jan 2012 20:03:22 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Stephen http://www.here.org.uk/2006/11/if-at-first-you-dont-succeed.html/comment-page-1#comment-461 Stephen Tue, 06 Feb 2007 13:09:50 +0000 http://www.here.org.uk/wordpress/?p=162#comment-461 Thanks, Kieron, that's pretty useful info! It helps to know that even an experienced operator like yourself goes through a loss phase on a new campaign. Although as you say the trick is to know the difference between something that will turn around, and something that will always eat your money!<br /><br />I suppose it's best to have a day job and a good line of credit when starting out on this path. Thanks, Kieron, that’s pretty useful info! It helps to know that even an experienced operator like yourself goes through a loss phase on a new campaign. Although as you say the trick is to know the difference between something that will turn around, and something that will always eat your money!

I suppose it’s best to have a day job and a good line of credit when starting out on this path.

]]> By: kunle http://www.here.org.uk/2006/11/if-at-first-you-dont-succeed.html/comment-page-1#comment-368 kunle Sun, 19 Nov 2006 17:07:04 +0000 http://www.here.org.uk/wordpress/?p=162#comment-368 What was you daily PPC budget for 15k keywords?<br />Also how long did it take to build 15k keywords and where did you build them from? overture? word tracker? G suggest? What was you daily PPC budget for 15k keywords?
Also how long did it take to build 15k keywords and where did you build them from? overture? word tracker? G suggest?

]]> By: Kieron http://www.here.org.uk/2006/11/if-at-first-you-dont-succeed.html/comment-page-1#comment-354 Kieron Tue, 14 Nov 2006 11:22:36 +0000 http://www.here.org.uk/wordpress/?p=162#comment-354 Just to reply...<br/><br/>Anonymous: I tweak my keywords manually by looking to see which have a high CTR so that I can lower the bids and hopefully maintain the high CTR.<br/><br/>Editor E-Commerce now: No its not dumb as you put it. If I set my budget at $100 a day it would just take longer to see how the campaign is coming along. With Adwords you need to let a good volume of clicks go through before things start to settle.<br/><br/>Anonymous: Easy, there are lots and lots of keyword tools out there. Just do a Google search to find them.<br/><br/>Matt: Sounds like you have been hit by the Quality Score algorithm. Maybe start a new campaign using a different domain. This may lower your bids. Just to reply…

Anonymous: I tweak my keywords manually by looking to see which have a high CTR so that I can lower the bids and hopefully maintain the high CTR.

Editor E-Commerce now: No its not dumb as you put it. If I set my budget at $100 a day it would just take longer to see how the campaign is coming along. With Adwords you need to let a good volume of clicks go through before things start to settle.

Anonymous: Easy, there are lots and lots of keyword tools out there. Just do a Google search to find them.

Matt: Sounds like you have been hit by the Quality Score algorithm. Maybe start a new campaign using a different domain. This may lower your bids.

]]> By: Matt http://www.here.org.uk/2006/11/if-at-first-you-dont-succeed.html/comment-page-1#comment-353 Matt Mon, 13 Nov 2006 08:35:54 +0000 http://www.here.org.uk/wordpress/?p=162#comment-353 I have been having an odd problem where Google asks me to bid (sometimes up to £5 per click) on keywords that I am paying just £0.05 for on exactly the same term, to the same site, but in a different campaign.

Is this why you have to go in high and bring it down? Is there any other option as there’s no way I can start my bidding at £5 per click, even for 1 or two clicks!

Matt

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.here.org.uk/2006/11/if-at-first-you-dont-succeed.html/comment-page-1#comment-352 Anonymous Sun, 12 Nov 2006 18:12:54 +0000 http://www.here.org.uk/wordpress/?p=162#comment-352 How can you manually build a list of 15,000 keywords? How can you manually build a list of 15,000 keywords?

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.here.org.uk/2006/11/if-at-first-you-dont-succeed.html/comment-page-1#comment-351 Anonymous Sat, 11 Nov 2006 09:55:19 +0000 http://www.here.org.uk/wordpress/?p=162#comment-351 sorry about the earlier double posts...comment pop-up wasn't working too well on your blog.<br/><br/>Apologies for the spam-like comments...meant no harm.<br/><br/>Editor, E-Commerce Now sorry about the earlier double posts…comment pop-up wasn’t working too well on your blog.

Apologies for the spam-like comments…meant no harm.

Editor, E-Commerce Now

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.here.org.uk/2006/11/if-at-first-you-dont-succeed.html/comment-page-1#comment-350 Anonymous Sat, 11 Nov 2006 09:55:03 +0000 http://www.here.org.uk/wordpress/?p=162#comment-350 I disagree.<br/><br/>That's kind of dumb.<br/><br/>Wouldn't a better/cheaper test be to use the same keywords and bids, but set a campaign <i>daily budget limit</i> of around 100 bucks work better? <b><i>Then</i></b>, start adjusting bid amounts.<br/><br/>Just sayin...<br/><br/>Editor, <a HREF="http://e-commerce-now.blogspot.com" REL="nofollow">E-Commerce Now</a> I disagree.

That’s kind of dumb.

Wouldn’t a better/cheaper test be to use the same keywords and bids, but set a campaign daily budget limit of around 100 bucks work better? Then, start adjusting bid amounts.

Just sayin…

Editor, E-Commerce Now

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.here.org.uk/2006/11/if-at-first-you-dont-succeed.html/comment-page-1#comment-349 Anonymous Fri, 10 Nov 2006 22:29:00 +0000 http://www.here.org.uk/wordpress/?p=162#comment-349 Kieron, <br/><br/>You talk about tweaking your key words. How do you do this? As we don't know which clicks convert to sales, how do you know which words to tweak.<br/><br/>Good post btw, I am new to this but I am working in an area that I don't think people other people are and its going very well. I certainly understand perseverance. Kieron,

You talk about tweaking your key words. How do you do this? As we don’t know which clicks convert to sales, how do you know which words to tweak.

Good post btw, I am new to this but I am working in an area that I don’t think people other people are and its going very well. I certainly understand perseverance.

]]> By: Kieron http://www.here.org.uk/2006/11/if-at-first-you-dont-succeed.html/comment-page-1#comment-348 Kieron Fri, 10 Nov 2006 15:44:38 +0000 http://www.here.org.uk/wordpress/?p=162#comment-348 Just to answer your questions...<br/><br/>My Google account was set up years ago, and the only option was $US.<br/>And yes it is cheaper as I have some bids at 3 cents.<br/><br/>Landing pages for brand bidding is tough at the moment on Google. But not so for generic terms.<br/><br/>No, I don't use any third party software.<br/><br/>My email address is on the contact us page at www.ukoffer.com Just to answer your questions…

My Google account was set up years ago, and the only option was $US.
And yes it is cheaper as I have some bids at 3 cents.

Landing pages for brand bidding is tough at the moment on Google. But not so for generic terms.

No, I don’t use any third party software.

My email address is on the contact us page at http://www.ukoffer.com

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.here.org.uk/2006/11/if-at-first-you-dont-succeed.html/comment-page-1#comment-347 Anonymous Fri, 10 Nov 2006 13:42:28 +0000 http://www.here.org.uk/wordpress/?p=162#comment-347 Kieron,<br/><br/>do you have a email address i can contact you on i have tried in in several forums<br/><br/>Andrew Kieron,

do you have a email address i can contact you on i have tried in in several forums

Andrew

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