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	<title>Comments on: Facebook Ads as good as AdWords in 2000? I don&#8217;t think so!</title>
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		<title>By: Facebook – The Final Frontier or Social Gaffe?! &#124; R.O.EYE Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.here.org.uk/2007/11/facebook-ads-as-good-as-adwords-in-2000-i-dont-think-so.html/comment-page-1#comment-8033</link>
		<dc:creator>Facebook – The Final Frontier or Social Gaffe?! &#124; R.O.EYE Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 13:54:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] ShopWindow API. Though advertising through Facebook applications has, historically, provoked many a cautious response, there is no doubt that engaging users, to the extent that they customise their own online space [...]</description>
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		<title>By: zowoco</title>
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		<dc:creator>zowoco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 22:50:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mm, let&#039;s get some of that M&amp;S belgian choc cheesecake down our faces! ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mm, let&#8217;s get some of that M&amp;S belgian choc cheesecake down our faces! <img src='http://www.here.org.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: FaceBook Ads - good example of targetting users via their profile</title>
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		<dc:creator>FaceBook Ads - good example of targetting users via their profile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 09:23:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] year I wrote about how I think FaceBook ads are rubbish, in terms of return on investment for advertisers. I still think they are but the ads themselves [...]</description>
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		<title>By: 2007 at Here.org.uk. The year in review</title>
		<link>http://www.here.org.uk/2007/11/facebook-ads-as-good-as-adwords-in-2000-i-dont-think-so.html/comment-page-1#comment-5761</link>
		<dc:creator>2007 at Here.org.uk. The year in review</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Dec 2007 19:04:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Some more people mistakingly think Facebook ads are good. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Facebook marketing podcast &#124; Retire Young and Wealthy</title>
		<link>http://www.here.org.uk/2007/11/facebook-ads-as-good-as-adwords-in-2000-i-dont-think-so.html/comment-page-1#comment-5413</link>
		<dc:creator>Facebook marketing podcast &#124; Retire Young and Wealthy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Dec 2007 19:49:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] a great podcast on marketing with Facebook. I had read a couple of blog posts by people saying they weren&#8217;t impressed with Facebook&#8217;s new PPC offerings. Ed&#8217;s podcast sheds some light as to how Internet [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] a great podcast on marketing with Facebook. I had read a couple of blog posts by people saying they weren&#8217;t impressed with Facebook&#8217;s new PPC offerings. Ed&#8217;s podcast sheds some light as to how Internet [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Chris K</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Dec 2007 12:54:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great topic Kieron - I&#039;ve been pretty excited by facebook ads over the past year.

While we&#039;ve had some successes with them on very specific quirky campaigns, we&#039;ve found it difficult to actually sell anything (at profitable ROI), even with extremely specific demographic targeting (resulting in low volumes of higher quality traffic).

I agree with your first point - people on facebook aren&#039;t really looking to purchase anything (even now at Christmas time); people searching on Google are already half-sold before you&#039;ve even done anything. So I also don&#039;t think this is the next big opportunity, just yet.

Cheers,
Chris</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great topic Kieron &#8211; I&#8217;ve been pretty excited by facebook ads over the past year.</p>
<p>While we&#8217;ve had some successes with them on very specific quirky campaigns, we&#8217;ve found it difficult to actually sell anything (at profitable ROI), even with extremely specific demographic targeting (resulting in low volumes of higher quality traffic).</p>
<p>I agree with your first point &#8211; people on facebook aren&#8217;t really looking to purchase anything (even now at Christmas time); people searching on Google are already half-sold before you&#8217;ve even done anything. So I also don&#8217;t think this is the next big opportunity, just yet.</p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
Chris</p>
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		<title>By: safesurfer</title>
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		<dc:creator>safesurfer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 23:39:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In 2000, Google was already handling 200,000,000 search queries a day. I don&#039;t have any facebook traffic stats but there is one thing I know: The quality of Google traffic in 2000 surely converted far better than the tr*sh traffic facebook generates nowadays.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In 2000, Google was already handling 200,000,000 search queries a day. I don&#8217;t have any facebook traffic stats but there is one thing I know: The quality of Google traffic in 2000 surely converted far better than the tr*sh traffic facebook generates nowadays.</p>
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		<title>By: links for 2007-11-30</title>
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		<dc:creator>links for 2007-11-30</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 02:29:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Facebook Ads as good as AdWords in 2000? I don’t think so! &#8220;If a user is searching on Google for a keyword/keyphrase then by definition they are seeking information, they want to find something out. In other words they are actively looking for information/a product/whatever&#8230;.But when you are messing about on Fa (tags: facebook advertising marketing google adwords) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 16:02:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kieron, Eloi and Kelvin,
Firstly, I like this thread...it&#039;s nice to know what the &quot;doers&quot; in the field are up to and what the issues of advertising on Facebook bring up.
On my blog (one linked to from this blog), I posted my personal experience.  I am not yet a very good advertiser but am working on it.  
The major issue that I have with putting money in Facebook is that I don&#039;t think the users (which in my opinion are mostly high school and college students) won&#039;t click on something they have to buy.  So, I (as an affiliate marketer) am having a horrendous time making any money off of FB because the users aren&#039;t willing to spend money on a product.  Regardless if they know they want it or not, in the long run I think FB will end up costing me money rather than making me money.
I believe that the FB ads system was designed for only one purpose: to make FB money so they can raise money by saying that they are on their way to being cash positive.  That&#039;s it.  They&#039;re a big deal now and carry a cloud of influence that brings them affluence.  Their business is booming b/c of their user base but they haven&#039;t figured out how to monetize and this is their attempt at getting some positive cash flow.
In the long run, I really hope that this experiment fails because only the &quot;big guys&quot; with freebies to promote will ever see the benefit and the little fish like me will spend a few (or not so few) bucks and give up.  
Just my 2 cents.
Nick</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kieron, Eloi and Kelvin,<br />
Firstly, I like this thread&#8230;it&#8217;s nice to know what the &#8220;doers&#8221; in the field are up to and what the issues of advertising on Facebook bring up.<br />
On my blog (one linked to from this blog), I posted my personal experience.  I am not yet a very good advertiser but am working on it.<br />
The major issue that I have with putting money in Facebook is that I don&#8217;t think the users (which in my opinion are mostly high school and college students) won&#8217;t click on something they have to buy.  So, I (as an affiliate marketer) am having a horrendous time making any money off of FB because the users aren&#8217;t willing to spend money on a product.  Regardless if they know they want it or not, in the long run I think FB will end up costing me money rather than making me money.<br />
I believe that the FB ads system was designed for only one purpose: to make FB money so they can raise money by saying that they are on their way to being cash positive.  That&#8217;s it.  They&#8217;re a big deal now and carry a cloud of influence that brings them affluence.  Their business is booming b/c of their user base but they haven&#8217;t figured out how to monetize and this is their attempt at getting some positive cash flow.<br />
In the long run, I really hope that this experiment fails because only the &#8220;big guys&#8221; with freebies to promote will ever see the benefit and the little fish like me will spend a few (or not so few) bucks and give up.<br />
Just my 2 cents.<br />
Nick</p>
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		<title>By: Kieron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kieron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 13:08:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eloi, sure there are some very minor positives in the blog posts that I linked too, but not very many. The overall concensus of opinion in the &quot;blogosphere&quot; is that facebook ads just aren&#039;t worth the bother.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eloi, sure there are some very minor positives in the blog posts that I linked too, but not very many. The overall concensus of opinion in the &#8220;blogosphere&#8221; is that facebook ads just aren&#8217;t worth the bother.</p>
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