Comments on: Reveal all discounts and visit site - ethical? http://www.here.org.uk/2007/11/reveal-all-discounts-and-visit-site-ethical.html Welcome to Kieron's blog - the life and times of an Internet Marketeer Mon, 13 Oct 2008 13:59:34 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: Click here to reveal discount codes - why I will probably adopt this practice on my discount code site http://www.here.org.uk/2007/11/reveal-all-discounts-and-visit-site-ethical.html#comment-7075 Click here to reveal discount codes - why I will probably adopt this practice on my discount code site Tue, 08 Apr 2008 08:15:55 +0000 http://www.here.org.uk/2007/11/reveal-all-discounts-and-visit-site-ethical.html#comment-7075 [...] post is a follow up to the one I wrote last November about discount code sites that “forced” users to click on a link to see [...] [...] post is a follow up to the one I wrote last November about discount code sites that “forced” users to click on a link to see [...]

]]> By: 2007 at Here.org.uk. The year in review http://www.here.org.uk/2007/11/reveal-all-discounts-and-visit-site-ethical.html#comment-5767 2007 at Here.org.uk. The year in review Sun, 30 Dec 2007 19:06:46 +0000 http://www.here.org.uk/2007/11/reveal-all-discounts-and-visit-site-ethical.html#comment-5767 [...] Lewis, Toys R Us and a certain discount code site get affiliate marketing all [...] [...] Lewis, Toys R Us and a certain discount code site get affiliate marketing all [...]

]]> By: David Fiske http://www.here.org.uk/2007/11/reveal-all-discounts-and-visit-site-ethical.html#comment-5306 David Fiske Mon, 26 Nov 2007 14:40:44 +0000 http://www.here.org.uk/2007/11/reveal-all-discounts-and-visit-site-ethical.html#comment-5306 In my opinion, it's not ethical. A banner is ethical. A text clink that says 'Click here for xyz.com' is ethical. 'Click here for codes and to visit the site' is a mix of two things - something that isn't possible without dropping a cookie through a new window or an iframe. I can't see a problem with 'Click here to use this discount' or 'Click here to activate your discount' if the discount is displayed before the user clicks. As it stands, the example you have given is unethical. In my opinion, it’s not ethical. A banner is ethical. A text clink that says ‘Click here for xyz.com’ is ethical. ‘Click here for codes and to visit the site’ is a mix of two things - something that isn’t possible without dropping a cookie through a new window or an iframe.

I can’t see a problem with ‘Click here to use this discount’ or ‘Click here to activate your discount’ if the discount is displayed before the user clicks.

As it stands, the example you have given is unethical.

]]> By: Nadeem azam http://www.here.org.uk/2007/11/reveal-all-discounts-and-visit-site-ethical.html#comment-5279 Nadeem azam Sat, 24 Nov 2007 18:15:59 +0000 http://www.here.org.uk/2007/11/reveal-all-discounts-and-visit-site-ethical.html#comment-5279 It's completely unethical as there are often no voucher codes when you click, and it also leads to a poor user experience; in the long term, this will hinder the growth of sites who work in this way. As a consumer, I'd rather use a website which did force you to make a click to see if they have a voucher code for a merchant or not. Visit nadeemsmillionpoundgiveawayperhaps.com to see if I'm giving away £1,000,000 this month or not. It’s completely unethical as there are often no voucher codes when you click, and it also leads to a poor user experience; in the long term, this will hinder the growth of sites who work in this way.

As a consumer, I’d rather use a website which did force you to make a click to see if they have a voucher code for a merchant or not.

Visit nadeemsmillionpoundgiveawayperhaps.com to see if I’m giving away £1,000,000 this month or not.

]]> By: Andrew http://www.here.org.uk/2007/11/reveal-all-discounts-and-visit-site-ethical.html#comment-5263 Andrew Sat, 24 Nov 2007 00:22:33 +0000 http://www.here.org.uk/2007/11/reveal-all-discounts-and-visit-site-ethical.html#comment-5263 I personally have a problem is it. I watched my friend, just now, searching for "high school musical" dvd. She clicked on a ppc hmv advert (that could of been an affiliate running it, or hmv). Got to the checkout. Saw the "enter voucher here" and went straight to google, searched "voucher" clicked on myvouchercodes and clicked on the hmv link, which showed no discount, but put myvouchercodes cookie on her computer. I found that quite interesting, since I read about this only the other day! and she did what many people must be doing.. only i made her clear her cookies before she purchased. Someone else has put in the hardwork / money to get the sale, then someone steals it with little expense and a gauranteed sale. I personally have a problem is it. I watched my friend, just now, searching for “high school musical” dvd. She clicked on a ppc hmv advert (that could of been an affiliate running it, or hmv). Got to the checkout. Saw the “enter voucher here” and went straight to google, searched “voucher” clicked on myvouchercodes and clicked on the hmv link, which showed no discount, but put myvouchercodes cookie on her computer.

I found that quite interesting, since I read about this only the other day! and she did what many people must be doing.. only i made her clear her cookies before she purchased.

Someone else has put in the hardwork / money to get the sale, then someone steals it with little expense and a gauranteed sale.

]]> By: mark http://www.here.org.uk/2007/11/reveal-all-discounts-and-visit-site-ethical.html#comment-5250 mark Fri, 23 Nov 2007 12:45:29 +0000 http://www.here.org.uk/2007/11/reveal-all-discounts-and-visit-site-ethical.html#comment-5250 Lee - what do you mean by "brand name bidders" will steal the cookie pls? Lee - what do you mean by “brand name bidders” will steal the cookie pls?

]]> By: zoran http://www.here.org.uk/2007/11/reveal-all-discounts-and-visit-site-ethical.html#comment-5217 zoran Thu, 22 Nov 2007 23:11:07 +0000 http://www.here.org.uk/2007/11/reveal-all-discounts-and-visit-site-ethical.html#comment-5217 User is driven to the site, and then he belongs to retailer and his creativity and skill to keep him on his site "window is opened!" you got your chance. 1x1 px iframe is not the case and that is main problem... doing that is stealing from retailer their own traffic or/and branding. If you ask me, I would not do it because it is too sleazy for my taste but it is just a bit above bottom line because main purpose is fulfilled USER IS DRIVEN TO THE SITE. User is driven to the site, and then he belongs to retailer and his creativity and skill to keep him on his site “window is opened!” you got your chance. 1×1 px iframe is not the case and that is main problem… doing that is stealing from retailer their own traffic or/and branding.

If you ask me, I would not do it because it is too sleazy for my taste but it is just a bit above bottom line because main purpose is fulfilled USER IS DRIVEN TO THE SITE.

]]> By: Steve Browne http://www.here.org.uk/2007/11/reveal-all-discounts-and-visit-site-ethical.html#comment-5214 Steve Browne Thu, 22 Nov 2007 18:48:17 +0000 http://www.here.org.uk/2007/11/reveal-all-discounts-and-visit-site-ethical.html#comment-5214 It's all solevd very easily anyway. Two buttons. One as above for sites where he knows there are codes. A second button that simply says "Don't know if codes currently exist. Click here to check the site". With a short paragraph stating that stores update code on a regular basis and it's always worth checking, it would probably still have a similar click through rate. It’s all solevd very easily anyway. Two buttons. One as above for sites where he knows there are codes. A second button that simply says “Don’t know if codes currently exist. Click here to check the site”. With a short paragraph stating that stores update code on a regular basis and it’s always worth checking, it would probably still have a similar click through rate.

]]> By: Raymond Theakston http://www.here.org.uk/2007/11/reveal-all-discounts-and-visit-site-ethical.html#comment-5213 Raymond Theakston Thu, 22 Nov 2007 16:19:31 +0000 http://www.here.org.uk/2007/11/reveal-all-discounts-and-visit-site-ethical.html#comment-5213 I don't employ these methods at my original code site and I am loving my conversion rates and repeat visitor numbers. Now, I could make more money by using iframes, pulldown menus or putting little stickers with each link. I know that. I'll only ever do that if either what we're seeing today is considered as acceptable or my hand is forced to keep up with the Joneses to remain competitive. I don’t employ these methods at my original code site and I am loving my conversion rates and repeat visitor numbers.

Now, I could make more money by using iframes, pulldown menus or putting little stickers with each link. I know that.

I’ll only ever do that if either what we’re seeing today is considered as acceptable or my hand is forced to keep up with the Joneses to remain competitive.

]]> By: Mr Daz http://www.here.org.uk/2007/11/reveal-all-discounts-and-visit-site-ethical.html#comment-5212 Mr Daz Thu, 22 Nov 2007 16:07:35 +0000 http://www.here.org.uk/2007/11/reveal-all-discounts-and-visit-site-ethical.html#comment-5212 I have to agree with Mary, that's a great idea. Mind you I also like the idea of the “New Ipod Nano 4GB For Only £25 - See If We’re Joking” banner. Hmmm.... I have to agree with Mary, that’s a great idea. Mind you I also like the idea of the “New Ipod Nano 4GB For Only £25 - See If We’re Joking” banner.

Hmmm….

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