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	<title>Comments on: Guest post by James Cooper</title>
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		<title>By: Tom Beaton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Beaton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 03:12:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael can consider himself thoroughly told!</description>
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		<title>By: hero</title>
		<link>http://www.here.org.uk/2008/03/andrew.html/comment-page-1#comment-6673</link>
		<dc:creator>hero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 14:10:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Michael was wrong to generalise, but, James, you&#039;re also doing the same. We&#039;ve gone from the pitch black that Michael was describing to the heaven on earth that you relay. 

The truth is, as always, in the middle: some agencies behave like Michael describes, some agencies behave how you describe. The majority are somewhere in between, especially when a digital division has been added in to make the most of the online trend and hasn&#039;t been staffed up by experienced people - the number of times network staff have had to literaly train agency staff is overwhelming. 

For agencies that either specialise in affiliate marketing or those to have hired experienced affiliate marketeers, these agencies do in fact make a difference. For the rest, well, we can only hope :-)

What is difficult for agencies is to disassociate themselves from what&#039;s good for their pockets and go for the good of the client, especially when they&#039;re managing ppc &amp; affiliates simultaneously. A lot of people will say the same about the networks, and it&#039;s a fair comment for some of the networks (I hate generalisations). In the same way that networks need to sort out their priorities and put affiliates first, when they are indeed right in their requests, agencies need to put the client&#039;s benefit first which means synergising the merchant&#039;s marketing with the affiliates even further.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Michael was wrong to generalise, but, James, you&#8217;re also doing the same. We&#8217;ve gone from the pitch black that Michael was describing to the heaven on earth that you relay. </p>
<p>The truth is, as always, in the middle: some agencies behave like Michael describes, some agencies behave how you describe. The majority are somewhere in between, especially when a digital division has been added in to make the most of the online trend and hasn&#8217;t been staffed up by experienced people &#8211; the number of times network staff have had to literaly train agency staff is overwhelming. </p>
<p>For agencies that either specialise in affiliate marketing or those to have hired experienced affiliate marketeers, these agencies do in fact make a difference. For the rest, well, we can only hope <img src='http://www.here.org.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>What is difficult for agencies is to disassociate themselves from what&#8217;s good for their pockets and go for the good of the client, especially when they&#8217;re managing ppc &amp; affiliates simultaneously. A lot of people will say the same about the networks, and it&#8217;s a fair comment for some of the networks (I hate generalisations). In the same way that networks need to sort out their priorities and put affiliates first, when they are indeed right in their requests, agencies need to put the client&#8217;s benefit first which means synergising the merchant&#8217;s marketing with the affiliates even further.</p>
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		<title>By: Ralph</title>
		<link>http://www.here.org.uk/2008/03/andrew.html/comment-page-1#comment-6671</link>
		<dc:creator>Ralph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 12:39:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>there are a number of affiliates who see agencies as &#039;profit stealers&#039; and lets be fair there are a number of agencies out there that do just that, sit on there arses and take there percentage. BUT... there are also a number of agencies that massively benifit the programme they manage!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>there are a number of affiliates who see agencies as &#8216;profit stealers&#8217; and lets be fair there are a number of agencies out there that do just that, sit on there arses and take there percentage. BUT&#8230; there are also a number of agencies that massively benifit the programme they manage!</p>
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		<title>By: Kieron</title>
		<link>http://www.here.org.uk/2008/03/andrew.html/comment-page-1#comment-6670</link>
		<dc:creator>Kieron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 11:32:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apologies for this Andrew. James did indeed misquote you in the original guest article. I have now corrected the post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apologies for this Andrew. James did indeed misquote you in the original guest article. I have now corrected the post.</p>
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		<title>By: James Cooper</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Cooper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 11:31:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Andrew

Please accept my apologies. The quote did indeed come from another user of the A4Uforum and not yourself.

Once again apologies for this mistake.

Kind regards,

James</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Andrew</p>
<p>Please accept my apologies. The quote did indeed come from another user of the A4Uforum and not yourself.</p>
<p>Once again apologies for this mistake.</p>
<p>Kind regards,</p>
<p>James</p>
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		<title>By: Keith Bond</title>
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		<dc:creator>Keith Bond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 11:05:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would just like to point out that your research is flawed and you are attributing that initial quote to the wrong person http://www.affiliates4u.com/forums/affiliate-marketing-moderators-choice/72696-role-agency-within-affiliate-marketing-2.html#post371865</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would just like to point out that your research is flawed and you are attributing that initial quote to the wrong person <a href="http://www.affiliates4u.com/forums/affiliate-marketing-moderators-choice/72696-role-agency-within-affiliate-marketing-2.html#post371865" rel="nofollow">http://www.affiliates4u.com/forums/affiliate-marketing-moderators-choice/72696-role-agency-within-affiliate-marketing-2.html#post371865</a></p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Clapham</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew Clapham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 10:45:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“In my experience (agencies are there) to skim margins, miscommunicate between the parties, delay execution, and claim to be experts at several things at once…oh yeah, and to go to lots of industry dos and lunches”. Andrew.</p>
<p>For the record the above quote was made by Michael Anthony and not me.</p>
<p>Andrew Clapham</p>
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