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	<title>Comments on: -25.67% ROI is not good. Give it up</title>
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		<title>By: hero</title>
		<link>http://www.here.org.uk/2008/06/2567-roi-is-not-good-give-it-up.html/comment-page-1#comment-8357</link>
		<dc:creator>hero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 08:21:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>how do you produce a minus ROI? A negative ROI is a decimal: 0.25 etc, always a positive number &gt;= 0. Based on his stats, his overall ROI is 0.74 - or does he need a &quot;-&quot; symbol to understand that he&#039;s actually in the red? dear dear...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>how do you produce a minus ROI? A negative ROI is a decimal: 0.25 etc, always a positive number &gt;= 0. Based on his stats, his overall ROI is 0.74 &#8211; or does he need a &#8220;-&#8221; symbol to understand that he&#8217;s actually in the red? dear dear&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Lammo</title>
		<link>http://www.here.org.uk/2008/06/2567-roi-is-not-good-give-it-up.html/comment-page-1#comment-8255</link>
		<dc:creator>Lammo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 12:57:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems strange that &quot;across the pond&quot;, affiliates are heralded for only losing a quarter of their money, whilst in the UK it&#039;s rare that anyone will bother with PPC campaigns unless they&#039;re seeing at least 100% ROI - Perhaps it&#039;s the different mindset- For those making money it&#039;s all about the ROI. And for those that aren&#039;t, it&#039;s all about traffic levels or number of sales, or some other factor that tells them they&#039;re doing well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems strange that &#8220;across the pond&#8221;, affiliates are heralded for only losing a quarter of their money, whilst in the UK it&#8217;s rare that anyone will bother with PPC campaigns unless they&#8217;re seeing at least 100% ROI &#8211; Perhaps it&#8217;s the different mindset- For those making money it&#8217;s all about the ROI. And for those that aren&#8217;t, it&#8217;s all about traffic levels or number of sales, or some other factor that tells them they&#8217;re doing well.</p>
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		<title>By: Fashion Boy</title>
		<link>http://www.here.org.uk/2008/06/2567-roi-is-not-good-give-it-up.html/comment-page-1#comment-8253</link>
		<dc:creator>Fashion Boy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 23:01:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Love him - check out his video, showing his take on ppc, sounds like mr Bean...with allergies. His heart is in the right place, but he does seem to confuse himself..must be a canadian thing?

FB</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Love him &#8211; check out his video, showing his take on ppc, sounds like mr Bean&#8230;with allergies. His heart is in the right place, but he does seem to confuse himself..must be a canadian thing?</p>
<p>FB</p>
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		<title>By: Tristan Palser</title>
		<link>http://www.here.org.uk/2008/06/2567-roi-is-not-good-give-it-up.html/comment-page-1#comment-8246</link>
		<dc:creator>Tristan Palser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 08:25:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think he sums it all up by saying I quote -  &quot;Part of the problem is that my brain often completely freezes when analyzing my stats&quot;
Tris</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think he sums it all up by saying I quote &#8211;  &#8220;Part of the problem is that my brain often completely freezes when analyzing my stats&#8221;<br />
Tris</p>
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		<title>By: Women's Clothes</title>
		<link>http://www.here.org.uk/2008/06/2567-roi-is-not-good-give-it-up.html/comment-page-1#comment-8243</link>
		<dc:creator>Women's Clothes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 07:46:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tyler Cruz? Sounds more like a porn star name to me...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tyler Cruz? Sounds more like a porn star name to me&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Work Plus Faith</title>
		<link>http://www.here.org.uk/2008/06/2567-roi-is-not-good-give-it-up.html/comment-page-1#comment-8240</link>
		<dc:creator>Work Plus Faith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 02:31:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, &quot;The Antidote&quot; is still my favorite Ronny Jordan album.  He&#039;ll be here in the states (Akron, OH) early August.  I&#039;ll be making the 2 hr drive to go see him.

Kieron, you are clearly an expert!  So I offer this opinion in a general sense.... 

If Billionaire Tom Monahan had quit after two bankruptcy&#039;s and nearly 19 years of failures, he never would have built Dominos Pizza into a multi billion int&#039;l corp.  His brother quit the biz and told him to give up.  Tom hung in and became a billionaire while his brother worked over 30 yrs as a postal worker &amp; school janitor.

Many stories of people struggling for years before having their breakthrough.  How is internet marketing any different?    Just because someone is struggling today doesn&#039;t mean they can&#039;t achieve their goals, right?  

Anyway, just my view on the issue.  

Tim</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, &#8220;The Antidote&#8221; is still my favorite Ronny Jordan album.  He&#8217;ll be here in the states (Akron, OH) early August.  I&#8217;ll be making the 2 hr drive to go see him.</p>
<p>Kieron, you are clearly an expert!  So I offer this opinion in a general sense&#8230;. </p>
<p>If Billionaire Tom Monahan had quit after two bankruptcy&#8217;s and nearly 19 years of failures, he never would have built Dominos Pizza into a multi billion int&#8217;l corp.  His brother quit the biz and told him to give up.  Tom hung in and became a billionaire while his brother worked over 30 yrs as a postal worker &amp; school janitor.</p>
<p>Many stories of people struggling for years before having their breakthrough.  How is internet marketing any different?    Just because someone is struggling today doesn&#8217;t mean they can&#8217;t achieve their goals, right?  </p>
<p>Anyway, just my view on the issue.  </p>
<p>Tim</p>
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		<title>By: Kieron</title>
		<link>http://www.here.org.uk/2008/06/2567-roi-is-not-good-give-it-up.html/comment-page-1#comment-8239</link>
		<dc:creator>Kieron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 22:50:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tim - he should quit PPC altogether. As for the example he&#039;s leading - well all he&#039;s doing is showing that anybody can throw money down the toilet. Not the best example I&#039;ve ever seen!!

BTW Ronny Jordan, that brings back memories. I loved &quot;So What&quot; and &quot;Get To Grips&quot;. Classic!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim &#8211; he should quit PPC altogether. As for the example he&#8217;s leading &#8211; well all he&#8217;s doing is showing that anybody can throw money down the toilet. Not the best example I&#8217;ve ever seen!!</p>
<p>BTW Ronny Jordan, that brings back memories. I loved &#8220;So What&#8221; and &#8220;Get To Grips&#8221;. Classic!</p>
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		<title>By: dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 22:45:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>considering he has revenues of over $1100 wouldn&#039;t he be in 1st place if he could be in his own contest?  they can&#039;t track profits.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>considering he has revenues of over $1100 wouldn&#8217;t he be in 1st place if he could be in his own contest?  they can&#8217;t track profits.</p>
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		<title>By: Work Plus Faith</title>
		<link>http://www.here.org.uk/2008/06/2567-roi-is-not-good-give-it-up.html/comment-page-1#comment-8237</link>
		<dc:creator>Work Plus Faith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 22:31:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kieron,

Are you saying he should give up and move on to a new PPC campaign, or give up on PPC altogether? 

I will say this, at least he&#039;s honest. There are many who would not have posted that info so they could maintain a certain image.  I also respect his tenacity. 

If this is part of a contest, Tyler is doing the right thing by finishing it.  What kind of example would he be if he threw in the towel before the end of the contest because he&#039;s struggling?

Tim

What I&#039;m listening to right now: Ronny Jordan - &quot;St Tropez (Club Mix)&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kieron,</p>
<p>Are you saying he should give up and move on to a new PPC campaign, or give up on PPC altogether? </p>
<p>I will say this, at least he&#8217;s honest. There are many who would not have posted that info so they could maintain a certain image.  I also respect his tenacity. </p>
<p>If this is part of a contest, Tyler is doing the right thing by finishing it.  What kind of example would he be if he threw in the towel before the end of the contest because he&#8217;s struggling?</p>
<p>Tim</p>
<p>What I&#8217;m listening to right now: Ronny Jordan &#8211; &#8220;St Tropez (Club Mix)&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Waraas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon Waraas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 21:29:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey now its an insult to Americans that you say tyler cruz is from the US. He is from Canada...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey now its an insult to Americans that you say tyler cruz is from the US. He is from Canada&#8230;</p>
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