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	<title>Comments on: -25.67% ROI is not good. Give it up</title>
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	<description>Welcome to Kieron's blog - the life and times of an Internet Marketeer</description>
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		<title>By: hero</title>
		<link>http://www.here.org.uk/2008/06/2567-roi-is-not-good-give-it-up.html/comment-page-1#comment-8357</link>
		<dc:creator>hero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 08:21:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>how do you produce a minus ROI? A negative ROI is a decimal: 0.25 etc, always a positive number &#62;= 0. Based on his stats, his overall ROI is 0.74 - or does he need a "-" symbol to understand that he's actually in the red? dear dear...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>how do you produce a minus ROI? A negative ROI is a decimal: 0.25 etc, always a positive number &gt;= 0. Based on his stats, his overall ROI is 0.74 - or does he need a &#8220;-&#8221; symbol to understand that he&#8217;s actually in the red? dear dear&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Lammo</title>
		<link>http://www.here.org.uk/2008/06/2567-roi-is-not-good-give-it-up.html/comment-page-1#comment-8255</link>
		<dc:creator>Lammo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 12:57:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems strange that "across the pond", affiliates are heralded for only losing a quarter of their money, whilst in the UK it's rare that anyone will bother with PPC campaigns unless they're seeing at least 100% ROI - Perhaps it's the different mindset- For those making money it's all about the ROI. And for those that aren't, it's all about traffic levels or number of sales, or some other factor that tells them they're doing well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems strange that &#8220;across the pond&#8221;, affiliates are heralded for only losing a quarter of their money, whilst in the UK it&#8217;s rare that anyone will bother with PPC campaigns unless they&#8217;re seeing at least 100% ROI - Perhaps it&#8217;s the different mindset- For those making money it&#8217;s all about the ROI. And for those that aren&#8217;t, it&#8217;s all about traffic levels or number of sales, or some other factor that tells them they&#8217;re doing well.</p>
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		<title>By: Fashion Boy</title>
		<link>http://www.here.org.uk/2008/06/2567-roi-is-not-good-give-it-up.html/comment-page-1#comment-8253</link>
		<dc:creator>Fashion Boy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 23:01:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Love him - check out his video, showing his take on ppc, sounds like mr Bean...with allergies. His heart is in the right place, but he does seem to confuse himself..must be a canadian thing?

FB</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Love him - check out his video, showing his take on ppc, sounds like mr Bean&#8230;with allergies. His heart is in the right place, but he does seem to confuse himself..must be a canadian thing?</p>
<p>FB</p>
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		<title>By: Tristan Palser</title>
		<link>http://www.here.org.uk/2008/06/2567-roi-is-not-good-give-it-up.html/comment-page-1#comment-8246</link>
		<dc:creator>Tristan Palser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 08:25:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think he sums it all up by saying I quote -  "Part of the problem is that my brain often completely freezes when analyzing my stats"
Tris</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think he sums it all up by saying I quote -  &#8220;Part of the problem is that my brain often completely freezes when analyzing my stats&#8221;<br />
Tris</p>
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		<title>By: Women's Clothes</title>
		<link>http://www.here.org.uk/2008/06/2567-roi-is-not-good-give-it-up.html/comment-page-1#comment-8243</link>
		<dc:creator>Women's Clothes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 07:46:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tyler Cruz? Sounds more like a porn star name to me...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tyler Cruz? Sounds more like a porn star name to me&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Work Plus Faith</title>
		<link>http://www.here.org.uk/2008/06/2567-roi-is-not-good-give-it-up.html/comment-page-1#comment-8240</link>
		<dc:creator>Work Plus Faith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 02:31:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, "The Antidote" is still my favorite Ronny Jordan album.  He'll be here in the states (Akron, OH) early August.  I'll be making the 2 hr drive to go see him.

Kieron, you are clearly an expert!  So I offer this opinion in a general sense.... 

If Billionaire Tom Monahan had quit after two bankruptcy's and nearly 19 years of failures, he never would have built Dominos Pizza into a multi billion int'l corp.  His brother quit the biz and told him to give up.  Tom hung in and became a billionaire while his brother worked over 30 yrs as a postal worker &#38; school janitor.

Many stories of people struggling for years before having their breakthrough.  How is internet marketing any different?    Just because someone is struggling today doesn't mean they can't achieve their goals, right?  

Anyway, just my view on the issue.  

Tim</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, &#8220;The Antidote&#8221; is still my favorite Ronny Jordan album.  He&#8217;ll be here in the states (Akron, OH) early August.  I&#8217;ll be making the 2 hr drive to go see him.</p>
<p>Kieron, you are clearly an expert!  So I offer this opinion in a general sense&#8230;. </p>
<p>If Billionaire Tom Monahan had quit after two bankruptcy&#8217;s and nearly 19 years of failures, he never would have built Dominos Pizza into a multi billion int&#8217;l corp.  His brother quit the biz and told him to give up.  Tom hung in and became a billionaire while his brother worked over 30 yrs as a postal worker &amp; school janitor.</p>
<p>Many stories of people struggling for years before having their breakthrough.  How is internet marketing any different?    Just because someone is struggling today doesn&#8217;t mean they can&#8217;t achieve their goals, right?  </p>
<p>Anyway, just my view on the issue.  </p>
<p>Tim</p>
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		<title>By: Kieron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kieron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 22:50:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tim - he should quit PPC altogether. As for the example he's leading - well all he's doing is showing that anybody can throw money down the toilet. Not the best example I've ever seen!!

BTW Ronny Jordan, that brings back memories. I loved "So What" and "Get To Grips". Classic!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim - he should quit PPC altogether. As for the example he&#8217;s leading - well all he&#8217;s doing is showing that anybody can throw money down the toilet. Not the best example I&#8217;ve ever seen!!</p>
<p>BTW Ronny Jordan, that brings back memories. I loved &#8220;So What&#8221; and &#8220;Get To Grips&#8221;. Classic!</p>
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		<title>By: dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 22:45:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>considering he has revenues of over $1100 wouldn't he be in 1st place if he could be in his own contest?  they can't track profits.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>considering he has revenues of over $1100 wouldn&#8217;t he be in 1st place if he could be in his own contest?  they can&#8217;t track profits.</p>
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		<title>By: Work Plus Faith</title>
		<link>http://www.here.org.uk/2008/06/2567-roi-is-not-good-give-it-up.html/comment-page-1#comment-8237</link>
		<dc:creator>Work Plus Faith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 22:31:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kieron,

Are you saying he should give up and move on to a new PPC campaign, or give up on PPC altogether? 

I will say this, at least he's honest. There are many who would not have posted that info so they could maintain a certain image.  I also respect his tenacity. 

If this is part of a contest, Tyler is doing the right thing by finishing it.  What kind of example would he be if he threw in the towel before the end of the contest because he's struggling?

Tim

What I'm listening to right now: Ronny Jordan - "St Tropez (Club Mix)"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kieron,</p>
<p>Are you saying he should give up and move on to a new PPC campaign, or give up on PPC altogether? </p>
<p>I will say this, at least he&#8217;s honest. There are many who would not have posted that info so they could maintain a certain image.  I also respect his tenacity. </p>
<p>If this is part of a contest, Tyler is doing the right thing by finishing it.  What kind of example would he be if he threw in the towel before the end of the contest because he&#8217;s struggling?</p>
<p>Tim</p>
<p>What I&#8217;m listening to right now: Ronny Jordan - &#8220;St Tropez (Club Mix)&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Waraas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon Waraas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 21:29:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey now its an insult to Americans that you say tyler cruz is from the US. He is from Canada...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey now its an insult to Americans that you say tyler cruz is from the US. He is from Canada&#8230;</p>
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